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2021年11月19日下午1点,龙葵社区邀请到了Pastel Co-Founder联合创始人Anthony Georgiades,为大家分享AMA主题:Pastel协议上线Sense and Cascade

以下是本次 AMA 直播内容:

 

1.欢迎Anthony来到龙葵社区,能否先给大家介绍下自己和你们的团队呢?

Anthony,welcome to the Sunrise dragon community. Can you introduce yourself and your team first?

Thank you for having me. My name is Anthony Georgiades. I am Co-Founder of Pastel Network as well as an investor for a deep-tech focused venture fund. I have been working with Jeff Emanuel on Pastel since 2018. He is the person who initially came up with this idea for a fully dedicated and purpose-built blockchain for the NFT Ecosystem. He saw the potential of doing rare art on the blockchain, which he first heard about with a now forgotten project called Rare Pepe that was built on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. Rare Pepe had a lot of problems though-- fees were way too high even then, and there were lots of aspects of the system that weren't decentralized, like not storing the image files in the chain and relying on a totally centralized website.

我很感谢能被邀请来参加此次的活动。我叫安东尼·乔治亚兹(Anthony Georgiades),是Pastel Network的联合创始人,也是一只专注深度技术的风险基金的投资者。自2018年以来,我一直与杰夫·伊曼纽尔(Jeff Emanuel)在Pastel项目上开展合作。他是最初提出为NFT生态建立了一个完全专用区块链的想法的人。他看到了在区块链上创作稀缺艺术的潜力,而首次促发他有这个想法的是由于一个建立在比特币区块链之上名为Rare Pepe的被遗忘项目。尽管在当时Rare Pepe项目也存在很多问题,如费用太高,项目系统在很多方面都没有实现去中心化,比如没有将图像文件存储在链中,以及依赖于一个完全中心化的网站。

He thought there was a much better way to do this, and so we started the process of designing and building a purpose-built blockchain just for rare NFTs. We chose to build on a rock solid technical foundation: Zcash, which is built on top of the Bitcoin code base, and then taking the Masternode code from the DASH project. We built on top of this a powerful and flexible system of "tickets" for registering and trading NFTs using special coin transactions. We added to that our own storage layer for storing the image files and a lot of other cool technology that we will tell you about today.

他认为有一种更好的方法可以来改善这些问题,所以我们开始着手为稀缺NFT设计和搭建专门区块链。我们选择建立在有着坚实可靠技术基础的Zcash上。Zcash建立在比特币代码库之上,然后从Dash项目中提取主节点代码。基于此,我们建立了一个强大而灵活的“票证”系统,通过特殊代币交易来实现NFT登记和交易。我们将其部署到了自己的存储层,用于存储图像文件以及实现许多其他很棒的技术,这些技术我们接下来将做介绍。

Additionally, Pastel is managed by world-class developers, cryptographers, and technologists, supported alongside an experienced and extensive network of marketers, influencers, and third-party agencies.

此外,Pastel由顶级的开发人员、密码学家和技术专家共同管理,并受到经验丰富的行销人员、KOL和第三方机构的广泛支持。

 

2. 接下来,请为我们介绍一下Pastel吧

Next, please introduce Pastel to us

Pastel is the world’s preeminent protocol standard for NFT technology. Pastel also allows for the development of third-party applications to sit on top of its Network, enabling developers to enjoy the scalable registration features, storage processes, and security of the broader ecosystem. Lightweight protocols such as Sense - which was built to assess the relative rareness of a given NFT against near-duplicate metadata - and Cascade - which conducts permanent, distributed storage of underlying NFT data - can be integrated across any native L1 blockchains or L2 marketplaces.

Pastel是行业领先的NFT技术协议标准。它允许在其网络上开发第三方应用程序,让开发人员享受由一个更广泛生态系统所带来的可扩展注册功能、存储流程和安全性。Sense和Cascade等轻量级协议可跨任何原生的L1区块链或L2项目实现整合。Sense可通过比对近似复制品元数据对给定NFT的相对稀缺性进行评估;Cascade可对底层NFT数据进行永久分布式存储。

The native platform living directly on top of the Pastel Network also gives creators a way to securely connect with fans and sell unique, limited edition digital assets – without the high fees or storage constraints of other crypto projects. By leveraging a purpose-built native blockchain, Pastel can deploy a number of key features such as Sense's deep-learning based near-duplicate detection system to ensure proven authenticity.

直接搭建在Pastel Network之上的原生平台也为创作者提供了一种安全地与粉丝互动并出售独特限量版的数字资产的方式,而无需像其他加密货币项目那样支付高昂的费用或受到存储限制。通过利用专门构建的原生区块链,Pastel可以部署一系列重要功能,如Sense基于深度学习的近似复制品检测系统,以确保验证的真实性。

 

3.Pastel 是如何让创建者保证他的NFT的价值?

How does Pastel let the creator guarantee the value of his NFT?

Other NFT projects rely solely on the digital signature of the artist to ensure rareness. They calculate a hash of an image file - and that is it. So if someone tries to take another artist's image and just changes one pixel in the corner of the image, no one would notice, but the hash would be different. Therefore, we came up with a solution to this problem. Pastel adds additional concepts of rareness at the level of the underlying pixel patterns in the image itself using our robust image fingerprinting technology. To protect artists and collectors, we realized that we needed a way to detect duplicate images.

其他NFT项目完全依靠艺术家的数字签名来确保稀缺性。他们只是计算图像文件的哈希值,仅此而已。因此,如果有人试图获取另一位艺术家的图像,只是更改了图像角落中的一个像素,没有人会注意到,但哈希会有所不同。因此,我们想出了一个解决这个问题的办法。通过使用强大的图像指纹技术,Pastel在图像的底层像素图型上增加了稀缺性概念。为了保护艺术家和收藏家,我们意识到我们需要一种方法来检测复制图像。

This is the most innovative aspect of the project, since we use 7 deep learning image recognition algorithms together with advanced statistics to detect dupes — even if they have been modified in all sorts of ways (like running any kind of photoshop filter on the image, or cropping, or flipping it, or changing contrast/colors, adding random noise, pixels, etc.)

这是该项目最具创新性的方面,因为我们使用了7种深度学习图像识别算法和先进的统计数据来检测复制品,即使它们已经以各种方式进行了修改(比如在图像上运行任何类型的Photoshop滤镜,或者裁剪,或者翻转,或者改变对比度/颜色,添加随机噪声,像素等等)。

And, if you are a believer in rareness, having the ability to confirm that a work is authentic will definitely help raise valuation.

此外,如果你是一名稀缺性追随者,确认一件作品真实性的能力肯定有助于你判定作品的价值。

We call this protocol, Sense. It is the first-of-its kind on the market, and I will discuss it in detail later.

我们称这个协议为Sense。这是市场上推出的首个此类产品,我稍后会详细说明。

 

4.Pastel的代币是什么,代币的话有哪些应用场景呢?

What is Pastel's token, and what are the application scenarios for tokens?

PSL is the native utility token for the Pastel ecosystem. PSL has been designed to facilitate NFT transactions like minting or trading and to power staking, validation, and governance. Ultimately, PSL is required for the various applications and protocols that are built on top of the Pastel Network.

PSL是Pastel生态系统的原生实用型代币。它旨在促进NFT交易,如铸币或交易,并实现质押、验证和治理功能。最终,建立在Pastel Network之上的各种应用和协议都将用到PSL代币。

PSL empowers users of any kind to partake in the ecosystem. PSL can be obtained by network participants and stored, transferred, or transacted with other Pastel users in a permissionless peer-to-peer manner.

PSL让任何类型的用户都能参与到生态系统中来。网络参与者可获得PSL,并以无需许可的点对点方式与其他的Pastel用户进行存储、传输或交易等操作。

Token holders can stake their PSL and work to provide execution of operations, storage services, and network security by running Supernodes. Creators can issue rare digital assets and obtain perpetual royalties of up to 10% of all future sales of such NFTs. Third-party developers can design apps on top of the Pastel Network by integrating PSL seamlessly into their applications and, in turn, can charge users for services or design rewards systems - without ever having to worry about settlement specifications.

代币持有者可将他们持有的PSL代币质押,并通过运行超级节点来运行操作、提供存储服务和确保网络安全等。创建者可以发行稀缺的数字资产,并从该类资产(如NFT)的未来销售中获得高达10%的永久版税收入。第三方开发商可以在Pastel Network上设计应用程序并将PSL无缝整合到其应用程序中去,进而向用户收取服务费或设计激励机制而无需担心结算问题。

 

5. What are the biggest challenges facing the NFT market today?

目前NFT市场面临的最大挑战是什么?

First is the amount of NFT scams and frauds occurring every day.

首先,是NFT诈骗和欺诈事件与日俱增。

NFTs are being sold at unbelievable prices - the biggest sales reaching millions or even tens of millions of dollars. Therefore, it is no surprise that malevolent users would try to disrupt the system to make a quick fortune.

NFT正以超乎想象的价格出售,其最大的销售额可达到数百万甚至数千万美元。因此,不良用户试图通过扰乱系统来赚快钱也就不足为奇了。

Some of the biggest NFT frauds that have taken place this year include the recent Banksy Scam, in which fake Banksy NFTs were listed on OpenSea and selling for nearly $350,000, and an evolved Apes NFT scam, also on OpenSea, which led to about $2.7 million being extracted by the anonymous developer behind the hack. The latter was due to a wallet vulnerability for OpenSea users which left them vulnerable and exposed to attackers.

在今年发生的大型NFT欺诈案中,近期爆出的Banksy NFT骗局引人注目。假冒的Banksy NFT在OpenSea上上市,售价近35万美元。还有一起进阶版的Apes NFT骗局也是发生在OpenSea上,该骗局让案件背后的匿名开发商窃取了约270万美元。该骗局是由于OpenSea的用户钱包漏洞,这让用户的安全性受到威胁,并容易成为攻击者的目标。

These are not isolated incidents. In September, $3 million in Ether was stolen on the MISO token launchpad built on the SushiSwap platform. Earlier this year, valuable NFTs were stolen from Nifty Gateway collectors. While it’s the larger hacks that garner the most media coverage, there is also no shortage of smaller scams that are largely unreported. Clearly, malicious actors have found the NFT space to be lucrative, and they have been taking advantage of technological gaps that exist in the system while showing no signs of slowing down.

这些都不是孤立的事件。今年9月,SushiSwap 的 Launchpad 平台 MISO遭攻击,300万美元的以太币被盗。今年早些时候,NFT交易市场Nifty Gateway的数名用户的珍贵NFT被盗。虽然较大的黑客攻击获得了最多的媒体报道,但也不乏规模较小的骗局,而这些骗局基本上没有被报道。显然,恶意攻击者发现NFT市场有利可图,他们一直在利用系统中存在的技术差距进行恶意操作,而该领域存在的恶意攻击局面丝毫没有减缓的迹象。

What do these hacks mean for the ecosystem? We need to provide a safe environment for creators to list their digital assets, and for users to safely and securely buy and sell NFTs, if the industry is going to go even more mainstream. Sooner or later, nobody will be willing to purchase an NFT for hundreds of dollars–let alone millions–if they cannot be certain that their investment is the real deal.

这些黑客攻击对生态系统意味着什么?如果该行业要走向主流,我们需要为创建者提供一个安全的环境来出示他们的数字资产,并为用户提供安全可靠的NFT交易环境。如果无法确定投资是否真实,最终将没人愿意花几百美元来购买一份NFT,更不用说花数百万美元了。

However, we are solving this problem through our Near-Duplicate NFT Detection protocol, Sense.

然而,我们正在通过我们的“近乎复制NFT检测协议-SENSE”来解决这个问题。

Second is storage.

其次是存储问题。

In the world of NFTs, the digital asset will often be stored in the cloud on a centralized server or as part of the IPFS Directory. This third-party provider may demand increased fees or require ongoing payments to maintain storage. There is also a lack of control over the asset in the long term, given levels of centralization. This leaves the creator highly vulnerable to the loss of data, and we have seen various rug-pulls or technical complications as a result. We are addressing this issue with our fully decentralized, permanent storage solution, Cascade.

在NFT世界中,数字资产通常存储在中心化服务器的云存储空间里,或者成为IPFS目录的一部分。第三方提供商可能要求增加费用或要求持续付款以维护存储。考虑到中心化问题,从长远来看,这种存储方式缺乏对资产的控制。这使得创建者极易受到数据丢失的影响,遭遇跑路或面临技术故障的风险。我们正在使用Cascade协议来解决这个问题, 它是一个完全去中心化的永久存储解决方案。

 

6.关于Pastel新上线的Sense和Cascade协议,能否为我们详细介绍下?

About Pastel's Sense and Cascade protocal, can you give us a detailed introduction?

Sense is our Near-Duplicate NFT detection protocol powered by the Pastel Network. Sense assesses the relative rareness of a given NFT against near-duplicate metadata on networks like Ethereum and Solana and prevents scams or theft. It is a lightweight protocol that leverages computer vision and a number of deep learning models using Tensorflow with Keras Applications to transform any NFT into a representation of thousands of numbers - an NFT fingerprint. Fingerprints can be compared against public NFTs in existence by querying open networks of data.

Sense是由Pastel Network创建的近乎复制NFT检测协议。通过比对Etherum和Solana等网络上近乎复制品的元数据,Sense对给定NFT的相对稀缺性进行评估,从而防止欺诈或盗窃。它是一种轻量级协议,利用计算机视觉和大量深度学习模型,将TensorFlow与Kera应用程序结合,把任意NFT转换成一个超过10,000个数字的固定列表(“NFT指纹矢量”)。通过查询开放的数据网络,可以将指纹与现有的公共NFT进行比较。

Before Sense, creators and collectors carried the burden of verifying if the works they were collecting were, in fact, originals. Sense was developed with creators and collectors in mind - to make proving authenticity and identifying rareness simple for the user.

在Sense面世以前,创作者和收藏家面临着验证收藏品真实性的压力。Sense开发之初就考虑到创作者和收藏家面临的痛点,致力于让用户可以轻松地验证作品的真实性并识别其稀缺性。

Cascade is our fully distributed, permanent storage protocol built for scalability, redundancy, and security. It is a lightweight protocol that leverages advanced fountain code algorithms and distributed systems to partition NFT data into a series of highly redundant chunks that are randomly distributed across nodes. There is no complex or centralized system for deciding which node is responsible for which file, no iteration through nodes to find one with the relevant data, and no complicated logic for handling re-allocation in the case of nodes entering and leaving the network.

Cascade是一个完全分布式的永久存储协议,旨在实现可扩展性、冗余性和安全性。它是一种轻量级协议,利用先进的喷泉编码算法和分布式系统将NFT数据划分为一系列高度冗余的区块,这些区块随机分布在节点上。没有复杂或中心化系统来确定哪个节点负责哪个文件,不通过节点迭代来寻找具有相关数据的节点,也没有复杂的逻辑来处理节点进出网络时的再分配。

Before Cascade, asset storage was inefficient and unreliable. The likelihood of data loss was high and the accessibility of the actual NFT was never certain. Cascade solves these challenges through permanent distributed storage of NFT data, on-chain. And all a user needs to do is register the NFT.

在Cascade面世以前,资产存储效率低下且不可靠。数据丢失的可能性很高,而且真实NFT的可访问性无法确定。Cascade通过链上永久分布式存储NFT数据解决了这些问题。且用户仅需要做的事情就是注册NFT。

 

7. Pastel作为一个NFT收藏平台,它有什么与众不同的地方?

As an NFT collection platform, what makes Pastel unique?

We designed Pastel from the ground up with our target user in mind. Users can create a PastelID, which consists of a public and private key, to develop an identity on the blockchain. More importantly, the PastelID system ensures that creators and collectors can share their PastelID key on their website or various social media accounts - abstracting away the confusing string identifiers associated with pub/priv key pairs.

Pastel在创建之初就站在我们目标用户的角度去考虑。用户可以通过由公私密钥生成的PastelID在区块链上创建身份。重要的是,PastelID系统确保创建者和收藏者可以在他们的网站或各种社交媒体账户上共享他们的PastelID密钥, 让与公私钥密钥对相关的易混淆字符串标识符抽象出来。

From user onboarding to navigating through the marketplace and trading NFTs, every aspect of the system was carefully designed to account for intuitive user-flow and understanding. In this manner, we open our doors to an entire world of users, creators, and adopters and makes It easy for non-crypto natives to use the platform - versus relying solely on abstract wallets like Metamask.

从用户市场引导到交易NFT,系统的每一个方面都经过精心设计,以考虑到直观的用户流程和理解。通过这种方式,我们向所以用户、创建者和采用者都敞开了大门,并使非加密货币的用户更容易使用该平台,而不是仅依赖Metamask等抽象钱包。

Additionally, we are leveraging our Sense and Cascade protocols to provide even more benefits to Pastel’s users. As described above, we have quantified rareness and proven authenticity as well as created an on-chain permanent storage solution.

此外,我们正在利用我们的Sense和Cascade协议为Pastel的用户提供更多好处。如上所述,我们量化了稀缺性和验证真实性,并创建了链上永久存储解决方案。

 

8. 现在NFT的市场已经有很大的成长,您对未来的NFT市场的前景有什么想法呢?

Now that the NFT market has grown tremendously, what are your thoughts on the prospects of the NFT market in the future?

The prospects for the future are truly great. The demand and utility of NFTs (not solely pertaining to digital art) is extremely high. NFTs will revolutionize identity verification, real estate, ticketing for sporting events and concerts, domain name ownership, and IP / patents. The applications for NFTs beyond digital art will change the world. However, that is not to say that digital art is the modern-day Renaissance. Digital art is driving the increase in the number of NFT platforms and marketplaces being launched. 6 months ago most of the world was skeptical that digital art could ever reach the upper echelons of the art world, but now digital art has completely revolutionized the way people look at art. While it is novel and niche, digital art signifies a changing of the guard, in some respects. Anyone, anywhere, can buy incredible digital art. It is no longer left to high society and the wealthy. This democratization has catalyzed the market into what it is today and has primed it for the future.

未来的前景是美好的。NFT(不仅仅与数字艺术有关)的需求和实用性非常高。NFTS将给身份验证、房地产、体育赛事和音乐会票务、域名所有权和知识产权/专利等领域带来革命性的变化。数字艺术以外的NFT应用将改变世界。然而,这并不是说数字艺术就是现代文艺复兴。数字艺术正在促进NFT平台和市场的增加。6个月前,世界上大多数人还对数字艺术能否问鼎艺术世界的顶峰持怀疑态度,但现在数字艺术已经彻底改变了人们看待艺术的方式。虽然数字艺术是相对新颖和小众的,但在某些方面,它标志着趋势的变更。任何人,任何地方,都可以买到珍贵的数字艺术品。它不再仅限于上流社会和富人。这种民主化催生了今天市场,并将预示着更美好的将来。

Additionally, I think consumer interest in the near future will lean heavily towards both Play to Earn Games and Celebrity collections. But, what is interesting is that both are already in the market and thriving. Various athletes, from Tom Brady to Tiger Woods, are dropping NFT collections. Dez Bryant, Dallas Cowboys Wide Receiver, launched his own NFT company, Personal Corner. Like Celebrities and Athletes, Blockchain/NFT games are also booming. Games, like The Sandbox, Axie Infinity, and Lost Relics are taking the gaming community by storm. Beyond that, use cases ranging from big data to real estate to credit markets, all the way to insurance and identity - any immutable, stale data can and will become an NFT. The next frontier has already begun, and I am very excited for what is next.

此外,我认为在不久的将来,消费者的兴趣将主要倾向于玩赚类游戏和名人收藏品。但是,有趣的是,这两类趋势都已形成市场并蓬勃发展。从汤姆·布雷迪(Tom Brady)到老虎·伍兹(Tiger Woods),运动员们都在推出各自的NFT的收藏品。达拉斯牛仔队的边路接球手德兹·布莱恩特(Dez Bryant)创办了自己的NFT公司Personal Corner。与名人和运动员一样,区块链/NFT游戏也在蓬勃发展。The Sandbox, Axie Infinity和 Lost Relics等游戏正席卷游戏界。除此之外,从大数据到房地产再到信贷市场,一直到保险和身份识别,任何不可篡改的过时数据都可以并且也将成为NFT。下一个篇章已经打开,我对未来充满期待。

 

9. 大家还很关心的是,Pastel怎么保证平台安全性?

What everyone cares about is how does Pastel guarantee the security of the platform?

Our head developer has been working in the computer security industry for over 20 years, and has carefully reviewed every element of the system from a security standpoint.

我们的首席开发人员在计算机安全行业有20多年的经验,从安全的角度仔细审查了系统的每一个要素。

We don't take anything for granted— we never assume that users or Supernode operators will act honestly. We assume that they can be malicious and try to attack or disrupt the network.

我们不认为任何事情都是理所当然的;我们从来不认为用户或超级节点操作人员会诚实行事。我们假设它们可能是恶意的,并试图攻击或破坏网络。

Also, we very intentionally decided to build our project on the rock solid foundation of Zcash, which is of course directly built on the Bitcoin core codebase.

此外,我们无比坚定地将我们的项目建立在有着稳健可靠基础且基于比特币核心代码库的Zcash平台上。

Most of the Pastel Network system sits at a higher level of abstraction, and the low level aspects is done using the same time-tested blockchain code that powers Bitcoin.

Pastel Network系统的大部分处于一个较高的抽象水平,而涉及低水平的方面是借助驱动比特币且经过实战考验的区块链代码来完成的。

We are also about to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to hire the leading 3rd party security auditing firms to check everything.

我们还将花费数十万美元聘请领先的第三方安全审计公司进行全面的系统检查。

 

10.Pastel最近有哪些活动,可以让社区和用户参与进呢?

What are Pastel's recent activities that can involve the community and users to join?

We are launching many community giveaways and campaigns to get users involved and learn more about Pastel. We also partnered with Project Galaxy, which is a permissionless NFT protocol that empowers communities with gamified loyalty systems and plug-and-play NFT modules. Through this partnership, we have launched an NFT giveaway campaign and are in the process of planning several more!

我们正在推出许多社区赠品和活动,让用户参与进来,了解更多关于Pastel的知识。我们还与Project Galaxy合作,其作为一个无须许可的NFT协议,通过游戏化的忠诚度系统和即插即用的NFT模块为Pastel社区赋能。通过本次合作,我们已经推出了一项NFT赠品活动,更多的活动正在计划中!

We believe that the community is the most important aspect of this project. If we can make Pastel accessible to everyone, then we have succeeded. To be a part of these campaigns and giveaways, be sure to follow us on our Telegram channel and WeChat groups!

我们相信,社区是这个项目最重要的方面。如果我们能让每个人都能接触到Pastel,那么我们就成功了。想要参与这些活动并获得赠品,请关注我们的电报频道和微信群!

 

11. 最后和我们聊一聊您对市场的看法,和对Pastel未来的一些期许吧

Finally, talk to us about your views on the market and some expectations for Pastel’s future.

The market shows no signs of slowing down. However, there is definitely a bubble aspect to the current NFT craze. However, I think this is at the level of individual NFTs, not so much the platforms. I think we had a brief period where people without much artistic talent or social media following could quickly make NFTs and sell them for thousands of dollars.

NFT市场的发展没有显示出放缓的趋势。然而,当前火爆的NFT热肯定有泡沫。然而,我认为这是针对个人NFT层面,而非NFT平台层面。我觉得我们曾经经历过一个短暂的时期,那就是没有太多艺术天赋或社交媒体追随者的人可以迅速创建NFT,并将其以数千美元的价格出售。

Unsurprisingly, the market saw a flood of new NFT products, and prices plunged. However, for artists of great ability with a big following, it's quite different. Or if you are a celebrity or sports star making an NFT collectible, that's also very different.

所以,当市场上出现了大量新的NFT产品,然后价格暴跌,这不足为奇。然而,对于拥有大量追随者、能力很强的艺术家来说,情况就大不一样了。或者,如果你是一位名人或体育明星,创建一件NFT收藏品,那也是非常不同的。

So the bubble of untalented, no-name artists getting rich quick— that's over now, and that's a good thing for the space. But in terms of the combined market caps of all NFT platforms— I think that number will be much higher in 3 years than now, at least in BTC terms.

因此,让没有才华、默默无闻的艺术家迅速致富的泡沫现已结束了,这对这个领域来说是一件好事。而从NFT平台的总市值而言,我认为3年后这个数字将比现在高得多,至少按比特币计算是这样。

And hopefully Pastel will be the biggest of them all 🙂

希望Pastel能成为市值最大的NFT平台:)

 

感谢anthony来到龙葵社区,希望未来的Pastel更加强大!

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2021年11月19日下午1点,龙葵社区邀请到了Pastel Co-Founder联合创始人Anthony Georgiades,为大家分享AMA主题:Pastel协议上线Sense and Cascade

以下是本次 AMA 直播内容:

 

1.欢迎Anthony来到龙葵社区,能否先给大家介绍下自己和你们的团队呢?

Anthony,welcome to the Sunrise dragon community. Can you introduce yourself and your team first?

Thank you for having me. My name is Anthony Georgiades. I am Co-Founder of Pastel Network as well as an investor for a deep-tech focused venture fund. I have been working with Jeff Emanuel on Pastel since 2018. He is the person who initially came up with this idea for a fully dedicated and purpose-built blockchain for the NFT Ecosystem. He saw the potential of doing rare art on the blockchain, which he first heard about with a now forgotten project called Rare Pepe that was built on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. Rare Pepe had a lot of problems though-- fees were way too high even then, and there were lots of aspects of the system that weren't decentralized, like not storing the image files in the chain and relying on a totally centralized website.

我很感谢能被邀请来参加此次的活动。我叫安东尼·乔治亚兹(Anthony Georgiades),是Pastel Network的联合创始人,也是一只专注深度技术的风险基金的投资者。自2018年以来,我一直与杰夫·伊曼纽尔(Jeff Emanuel)在Pastel项目上开展合作。他是最初提出为NFT生态建立了一个完全专用区块链的想法的人。他看到了在区块链上创作稀缺艺术的潜力,而首次促发他有这个想法的是由于一个建立在比特币区块链之上名为Rare Pepe的被遗忘项目。尽管在当时Rare Pepe项目也存在很多问题,如费用太高,项目系统在很多方面都没有实现去中心化,比如没有将图像文件存储在链中,以及依赖于一个完全中心化的网站。

He thought there was a much better way to do this, and so we started the process of designing and building a purpose-built blockchain just for rare NFTs. We chose to build on a rock solid technical foundation: Zcash, which is built on top of the Bitcoin code base, and then taking the Masternode code from the DASH project. We built on top of this a powerful and flexible system of "tickets" for registering and trading NFTs using special coin transactions. We added to that our own storage layer for storing the image files and a lot of other cool technology that we will tell you about today.

他认为有一种更好的方法可以来改善这些问题,所以我们开始着手为稀缺NFT设计和搭建专门区块链。我们选择建立在有着坚实可靠技术基础的Zcash上。Zcash建立在比特币代码库之上,然后从Dash项目中提取主节点代码。基于此,我们建立了一个强大而灵活的“票证”系统,通过特殊代币交易来实现NFT登记和交易。我们将其部署到了自己的存储层,用于存储图像文件以及实现许多其他很棒的技术,这些技术我们接下来将做介绍。

Additionally, Pastel is managed by world-class developers, cryptographers, and technologists, supported alongside an experienced and extensive network of marketers, influencers, and third-party agencies.

此外,Pastel由顶级的开发人员、密码学家和技术专家共同管理,并受到经验丰富的行销人员、KOL和第三方机构的广泛支持。

 

2. 接下来,请为我们介绍一下Pastel吧

Next, please introduce Pastel to us

Pastel is the world’s preeminent protocol standard for NFT technology. Pastel also allows for the development of third-party applications to sit on top of its Network, enabling developers to enjoy the scalable registration features, storage processes, and security of the broader ecosystem. Lightweight protocols such as Sense - which was built to assess the relative rareness of a given NFT against near-duplicate metadata - and Cascade - which conducts permanent, distributed storage of underlying NFT data - can be integrated across any native L1 blockchains or L2 marketplaces.

Pastel是行业领先的NFT技术协议标准。它允许在其网络上开发第三方应用程序,让开发人员享受由一个更广泛生态系统所带来的可扩展注册功能、存储流程和安全性。Sense和Cascade等轻量级协议可跨任何原生的L1区块链或L2项目实现整合。Sense可通过比对近似复制品元数据对给定NFT的相对稀缺性进行评估;Cascade可对底层NFT数据进行永久分布式存储。

The native platform living directly on top of the Pastel Network also gives creators a way to securely connect with fans and sell unique, limited edition digital assets – without the high fees or storage constraints of other crypto projects. By leveraging a purpose-built native blockchain, Pastel can deploy a number of key features such as Sense's deep-learning based near-duplicate detection system to ensure proven authenticity.

直接搭建在Pastel Network之上的原生平台也为创作者提供了一种安全地与粉丝互动并出售独特限量版的数字资产的方式,而无需像其他加密货币项目那样支付高昂的费用或受到存储限制。通过利用专门构建的原生区块链,Pastel可以部署一系列重要功能,如Sense基于深度学习的近似复制品检测系统,以确保验证的真实性。

 

3.Pastel 是如何让创建者保证他的NFT的价值?

How does Pastel let the creator guarantee the value of his NFT?

Other NFT projects rely solely on the digital signature of the artist to ensure rareness. They calculate a hash of an image file - and that is it. So if someone tries to take another artist's image and just changes one pixel in the corner of the image, no one would notice, but the hash would be different. Therefore, we came up with a solution to this problem. Pastel adds additional concepts of rareness at the level of the underlying pixel patterns in the image itself using our robust image fingerprinting technology. To protect artists and collectors, we realized that we needed a way to detect duplicate images.

其他NFT项目完全依靠艺术家的数字签名来确保稀缺性。他们只是计算图像文件的哈希值,仅此而已。因此,如果有人试图获取另一位艺术家的图像,只是更改了图像角落中的一个像素,没有人会注意到,但哈希会有所不同。因此,我们想出了一个解决这个问题的办法。通过使用强大的图像指纹技术,Pastel在图像的底层像素图型上增加了稀缺性概念。为了保护艺术家和收藏家,我们意识到我们需要一种方法来检测复制图像。

This is the most innovative aspect of the project, since we use 7 deep learning image recognition algorithms together with advanced statistics to detect dupes — even if they have been modified in all sorts of ways (like running any kind of photoshop filter on the image, or cropping, or flipping it, or changing contrast/colors, adding random noise, pixels, etc.)

这是该项目最具创新性的方面,因为我们使用了7种深度学习图像识别算法和先进的统计数据来检测复制品,即使它们已经以各种方式进行了修改(比如在图像上运行任何类型的Photoshop滤镜,或者裁剪,或者翻转,或者改变对比度/颜色,添加随机噪声,像素等等)。

And, if you are a believer in rareness, having the ability to confirm that a work is authentic will definitely help raise valuation.

此外,如果你是一名稀缺性追随者,确认一件作品真实性的能力肯定有助于你判定作品的价值。

We call this protocol, Sense. It is the first-of-its kind on the market, and I will discuss it in detail later.

我们称这个协议为Sense。这是市场上推出的首个此类产品,我稍后会详细说明。

 

4.Pastel的代币是什么,代币的话有哪些应用场景呢?

What is Pastel's token, and what are the application scenarios for tokens?

PSL is the native utility token for the Pastel ecosystem. PSL has been designed to facilitate NFT transactions like minting or trading and to power staking, validation, and governance. Ultimately, PSL is required for the various applications and protocols that are built on top of the Pastel Network.

PSL是Pastel生态系统的原生实用型代币。它旨在促进NFT交易,如铸币或交易,并实现质押、验证和治理功能。最终,建立在Pastel Network之上的各种应用和协议都将用到PSL代币。

PSL empowers users of any kind to partake in the ecosystem. PSL can be obtained by network participants and stored, transferred, or transacted with other Pastel users in a permissionless peer-to-peer manner.

PSL让任何类型的用户都能参与到生态系统中来。网络参与者可获得PSL,并以无需许可的点对点方式与其他的Pastel用户进行存储、传输或交易等操作。

Token holders can stake their PSL and work to provide execution of operations, storage services, and network security by running Supernodes. Creators can issue rare digital assets and obtain perpetual royalties of up to 10% of all future sales of such NFTs. Third-party developers can design apps on top of the Pastel Network by integrating PSL seamlessly into their applications and, in turn, can charge users for services or design rewards systems - without ever having to worry about settlement specifications.

代币持有者可将他们持有的PSL代币质押,并通过运行超级节点来运行操作、提供存储服务和确保网络安全等。创建者可以发行稀缺的数字资产,并从该类资产(如NFT)的未来销售中获得高达10%的永久版税收入。第三方开发商可以在Pastel Network上设计应用程序并将PSL无缝整合到其应用程序中去,进而向用户收取服务费或设计激励机制而无需担心结算问题。

 

5. What are the biggest challenges facing the NFT market today?

目前NFT市场面临的最大挑战是什么?

First is the amount of NFT scams and frauds occurring every day.

首先,是NFT诈骗和欺诈事件与日俱增。

NFTs are being sold at unbelievable prices - the biggest sales reaching millions or even tens of millions of dollars. Therefore, it is no surprise that malevolent users would try to disrupt the system to make a quick fortune.

NFT正以超乎想象的价格出售,其最大的销售额可达到数百万甚至数千万美元。因此,不良用户试图通过扰乱系统来赚快钱也就不足为奇了。

Some of the biggest NFT frauds that have taken place this year include the recent Banksy Scam, in which fake Banksy NFTs were listed on OpenSea and selling for nearly $350,000, and an evolved Apes NFT scam, also on OpenSea, which led to about $2.7 million being extracted by the anonymous developer behind the hack. The latter was due to a wallet vulnerability for OpenSea users which left them vulnerable and exposed to attackers.

在今年发生的大型NFT欺诈案中,近期爆出的Banksy NFT骗局引人注目。假冒的Banksy NFT在OpenSea上上市,售价近35万美元。还有一起进阶版的Apes NFT骗局也是发生在OpenSea上,该骗局让案件背后的匿名开发商窃取了约270万美元。该骗局是由于OpenSea的用户钱包漏洞,这让用户的安全性受到威胁,并容易成为攻击者的目标。

These are not isolated incidents. In September, $3 million in Ether was stolen on the MISO token launchpad built on the SushiSwap platform. Earlier this year, valuable NFTs were stolen from Nifty Gateway collectors. While it’s the larger hacks that garner the most media coverage, there is also no shortage of smaller scams that are largely unreported. Clearly, malicious actors have found the NFT space to be lucrative, and they have been taking advantage of technological gaps that exist in the system while showing no signs of slowing down.

这些都不是孤立的事件。今年9月,SushiSwap 的 Launchpad 平台 MISO遭攻击,300万美元的以太币被盗。今年早些时候,NFT交易市场Nifty Gateway的数名用户的珍贵NFT被盗。虽然较大的黑客攻击获得了最多的媒体报道,但也不乏规模较小的骗局,而这些骗局基本上没有被报道。显然,恶意攻击者发现NFT市场有利可图,他们一直在利用系统中存在的技术差距进行恶意操作,而该领域存在的恶意攻击局面丝毫没有减缓的迹象。

What do these hacks mean for the ecosystem? We need to provide a safe environment for creators to list their digital assets, and for users to safely and securely buy and sell NFTs, if the industry is going to go even more mainstream. Sooner or later, nobody will be willing to purchase an NFT for hundreds of dollars–let alone millions–if they cannot be certain that their investment is the real deal.

这些黑客攻击对生态系统意味着什么?如果该行业要走向主流,我们需要为创建者提供一个安全的环境来出示他们的数字资产,并为用户提供安全可靠的NFT交易环境。如果无法确定投资是否真实,最终将没人愿意花几百美元来购买一份NFT,更不用说花数百万美元了。

However, we are solving this problem through our Near-Duplicate NFT Detection protocol, Sense.

然而,我们正在通过我们的“近乎复制NFT检测协议-SENSE”来解决这个问题。

Second is storage.

其次是存储问题。

In the world of NFTs, the digital asset will often be stored in the cloud on a centralized server or as part of the IPFS Directory. This third-party provider may demand increased fees or require ongoing payments to maintain storage. There is also a lack of control over the asset in the long term, given levels of centralization. This leaves the creator highly vulnerable to the loss of data, and we have seen various rug-pulls or technical complications as a result. We are addressing this issue with our fully decentralized, permanent storage solution, Cascade.

在NFT世界中,数字资产通常存储在中心化服务器的云存储空间里,或者成为IPFS目录的一部分。第三方提供商可能要求增加费用或要求持续付款以维护存储。考虑到中心化问题,从长远来看,这种存储方式缺乏对资产的控制。这使得创建者极易受到数据丢失的影响,遭遇跑路或面临技术故障的风险。我们正在使用Cascade协议来解决这个问题, 它是一个完全去中心化的永久存储解决方案。

 

6.关于Pastel新上线的Sense和Cascade协议,能否为我们详细介绍下?

About Pastel's Sense and Cascade protocal, can you give us a detailed introduction?

Sense is our Near-Duplicate NFT detection protocol powered by the Pastel Network. Sense assesses the relative rareness of a given NFT against near-duplicate metadata on networks like Ethereum and Solana and prevents scams or theft. It is a lightweight protocol that leverages computer vision and a number of deep learning models using Tensorflow with Keras Applications to transform any NFT into a representation of thousands of numbers - an NFT fingerprint. Fingerprints can be compared against public NFTs in existence by querying open networks of data.

Sense是由Pastel Network创建的近乎复制NFT检测协议。通过比对Etherum和Solana等网络上近乎复制品的元数据,Sense对给定NFT的相对稀缺性进行评估,从而防止欺诈或盗窃。它是一种轻量级协议,利用计算机视觉和大量深度学习模型,将TensorFlow与Kera应用程序结合,把任意NFT转换成一个超过10,000个数字的固定列表(“NFT指纹矢量”)。通过查询开放的数据网络,可以将指纹与现有的公共NFT进行比较。

Before Sense, creators and collectors carried the burden of verifying if the works they were collecting were, in fact, originals. Sense was developed with creators and collectors in mind - to make proving authenticity and identifying rareness simple for the user.

在Sense面世以前,创作者和收藏家面临着验证收藏品真实性的压力。Sense开发之初就考虑到创作者和收藏家面临的痛点,致力于让用户可以轻松地验证作品的真实性并识别其稀缺性。

Cascade is our fully distributed, permanent storage protocol built for scalability, redundancy, and security. It is a lightweight protocol that leverages advanced fountain code algorithms and distributed systems to partition NFT data into a series of highly redundant chunks that are randomly distributed across nodes. There is no complex or centralized system for deciding which node is responsible for which file, no iteration through nodes to find one with the relevant data, and no complicated logic for handling re-allocation in the case of nodes entering and leaving the network.

Cascade是一个完全分布式的永久存储协议,旨在实现可扩展性、冗余性和安全性。它是一种轻量级协议,利用先进的喷泉编码算法和分布式系统将NFT数据划分为一系列高度冗余的区块,这些区块随机分布在节点上。没有复杂或中心化系统来确定哪个节点负责哪个文件,不通过节点迭代来寻找具有相关数据的节点,也没有复杂的逻辑来处理节点进出网络时的再分配。

Before Cascade, asset storage was inefficient and unreliable. The likelihood of data loss was high and the accessibility of the actual NFT was never certain. Cascade solves these challenges through permanent distributed storage of NFT data, on-chain. And all a user needs to do is register the NFT.

在Cascade面世以前,资产存储效率低下且不可靠。数据丢失的可能性很高,而且真实NFT的可访问性无法确定。Cascade通过链上永久分布式存储NFT数据解决了这些问题。且用户仅需要做的事情就是注册NFT。

 

7. Pastel作为一个NFT收藏平台,它有什么与众不同的地方?

As an NFT collection platform, what makes Pastel unique?

We designed Pastel from the ground up with our target user in mind. Users can create a PastelID, which consists of a public and private key, to develop an identity on the blockchain. More importantly, the PastelID system ensures that creators and collectors can share their PastelID key on their website or various social media accounts - abstracting away the confusing string identifiers associated with pub/priv key pairs.

Pastel在创建之初就站在我们目标用户的角度去考虑。用户可以通过由公私密钥生成的PastelID在区块链上创建身份。重要的是,PastelID系统确保创建者和收藏者可以在他们的网站或各种社交媒体账户上共享他们的PastelID密钥, 让与公私钥密钥对相关的易混淆字符串标识符抽象出来。

From user onboarding to navigating through the marketplace and trading NFTs, every aspect of the system was carefully designed to account for intuitive user-flow and understanding. In this manner, we open our doors to an entire world of users, creators, and adopters and makes It easy for non-crypto natives to use the platform - versus relying solely on abstract wallets like Metamask.

从用户市场引导到交易NFT,系统的每一个方面都经过精心设计,以考虑到直观的用户流程和理解。通过这种方式,我们向所以用户、创建者和采用者都敞开了大门,并使非加密货币的用户更容易使用该平台,而不是仅依赖Metamask等抽象钱包。

Additionally, we are leveraging our Sense and Cascade protocols to provide even more benefits to Pastel’s users. As described above, we have quantified rareness and proven authenticity as well as created an on-chain permanent storage solution.

此外,我们正在利用我们的Sense和Cascade协议为Pastel的用户提供更多好处。如上所述,我们量化了稀缺性和验证真实性,并创建了链上永久存储解决方案。

 

8. 现在NFT的市场已经有很大的成长,您对未来的NFT市场的前景有什么想法呢?

Now that the NFT market has grown tremendously, what are your thoughts on the prospects of the NFT market in the future?

The prospects for the future are truly great. The demand and utility of NFTs (not solely pertaining to digital art) is extremely high. NFTs will revolutionize identity verification, real estate, ticketing for sporting events and concerts, domain name ownership, and IP / patents. The applications for NFTs beyond digital art will change the world. However, that is not to say that digital art is the modern-day Renaissance. Digital art is driving the increase in the number of NFT platforms and marketplaces being launched. 6 months ago most of the world was skeptical that digital art could ever reach the upper echelons of the art world, but now digital art has completely revolutionized the way people look at art. While it is novel and niche, digital art signifies a changing of the guard, in some respects. Anyone, anywhere, can buy incredible digital art. It is no longer left to high society and the wealthy. This democratization has catalyzed the market into what it is today and has primed it for the future.

未来的前景是美好的。NFT(不仅仅与数字艺术有关)的需求和实用性非常高。NFTS将给身份验证、房地产、体育赛事和音乐会票务、域名所有权和知识产权/专利等领域带来革命性的变化。数字艺术以外的NFT应用将改变世界。然而,这并不是说数字艺术就是现代文艺复兴。数字艺术正在促进NFT平台和市场的增加。6个月前,世界上大多数人还对数字艺术能否问鼎艺术世界的顶峰持怀疑态度,但现在数字艺术已经彻底改变了人们看待艺术的方式。虽然数字艺术是相对新颖和小众的,但在某些方面,它标志着趋势的变更。任何人,任何地方,都可以买到珍贵的数字艺术品。它不再仅限于上流社会和富人。这种民主化催生了今天市场,并将预示着更美好的将来。

Additionally, I think consumer interest in the near future will lean heavily towards both Play to Earn Games and Celebrity collections. But, what is interesting is that both are already in the market and thriving. Various athletes, from Tom Brady to Tiger Woods, are dropping NFT collections. Dez Bryant, Dallas Cowboys Wide Receiver, launched his own NFT company, Personal Corner. Like Celebrities and Athletes, Blockchain/NFT games are also booming. Games, like The Sandbox, Axie Infinity, and Lost Relics are taking the gaming community by storm. Beyond that, use cases ranging from big data to real estate to credit markets, all the way to insurance and identity - any immutable, stale data can and will become an NFT. The next frontier has already begun, and I am very excited for what is next.

此外,我认为在不久的将来,消费者的兴趣将主要倾向于玩赚类游戏和名人收藏品。但是,有趣的是,这两类趋势都已形成市场并蓬勃发展。从汤姆·布雷迪(Tom Brady)到老虎·伍兹(Tiger Woods),运动员们都在推出各自的NFT的收藏品。达拉斯牛仔队的边路接球手德兹·布莱恩特(Dez Bryant)创办了自己的NFT公司Personal Corner。与名人和运动员一样,区块链/NFT游戏也在蓬勃发展。The Sandbox, Axie Infinity和 Lost Relics等游戏正席卷游戏界。除此之外,从大数据到房地产再到信贷市场,一直到保险和身份识别,任何不可篡改的过时数据都可以并且也将成为NFT。下一个篇章已经打开,我对未来充满期待。

 

9. 大家还很关心的是,Pastel怎么保证平台安全性?

What everyone cares about is how does Pastel guarantee the security of the platform?

Our head developer has been working in the computer security industry for over 20 years, and has carefully reviewed every element of the system from a security standpoint.

我们的首席开发人员在计算机安全行业有20多年的经验,从安全的角度仔细审查了系统的每一个要素。

We don't take anything for granted— we never assume that users or Supernode operators will act honestly. We assume that they can be malicious and try to attack or disrupt the network.

我们不认为任何事情都是理所当然的;我们从来不认为用户或超级节点操作人员会诚实行事。我们假设它们可能是恶意的,并试图攻击或破坏网络。

Also, we very intentionally decided to build our project on the rock solid foundation of Zcash, which is of course directly built on the Bitcoin core codebase.

此外,我们无比坚定地将我们的项目建立在有着稳健可靠基础且基于比特币核心代码库的Zcash平台上。

Most of the Pastel Network system sits at a higher level of abstraction, and the low level aspects is done using the same time-tested blockchain code that powers Bitcoin.

Pastel Network系统的大部分处于一个较高的抽象水平,而涉及低水平的方面是借助驱动比特币且经过实战考验的区块链代码来完成的。

We are also about to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to hire the leading 3rd party security auditing firms to check everything.

我们还将花费数十万美元聘请领先的第三方安全审计公司进行全面的系统检查。

 

10.Pastel最近有哪些活动,可以让社区和用户参与进呢?

What are Pastel's recent activities that can involve the community and users to join?

We are launching many community giveaways and campaigns to get users involved and learn more about Pastel. We also partnered with Project Galaxy, which is a permissionless NFT protocol that empowers communities with gamified loyalty systems and plug-and-play NFT modules. Through this partnership, we have launched an NFT giveaway campaign and are in the process of planning several more!

我们正在推出许多社区赠品和活动,让用户参与进来,了解更多关于Pastel的知识。我们还与Project Galaxy合作,其作为一个无须许可的NFT协议,通过游戏化的忠诚度系统和即插即用的NFT模块为Pastel社区赋能。通过本次合作,我们已经推出了一项NFT赠品活动,更多的活动正在计划中!

We believe that the community is the most important aspect of this project. If we can make Pastel accessible to everyone, then we have succeeded. To be a part of these campaigns and giveaways, be sure to follow us on our Telegram channel and WeChat groups!

我们相信,社区是这个项目最重要的方面。如果我们能让每个人都能接触到Pastel,那么我们就成功了。想要参与这些活动并获得赠品,请关注我们的电报频道和微信群!

 

11. 最后和我们聊一聊您对市场的看法,和对Pastel未来的一些期许吧

Finally, talk to us about your views on the market and some expectations for Pastel’s future.

The market shows no signs of slowing down. However, there is definitely a bubble aspect to the current NFT craze. However, I think this is at the level of individual NFTs, not so much the platforms. I think we had a brief period where people without much artistic talent or social media following could quickly make NFTs and sell them for thousands of dollars.

NFT市场的发展没有显示出放缓的趋势。然而,当前火爆的NFT热肯定有泡沫。然而,我认为这是针对个人NFT层面,而非NFT平台层面。我觉得我们曾经经历过一个短暂的时期,那就是没有太多艺术天赋或社交媒体追随者的人可以迅速创建NFT,并将其以数千美元的价格出售。

Unsurprisingly, the market saw a flood of new NFT products, and prices plunged. However, for artists of great ability with a big following, it's quite different. Or if you are a celebrity or sports star making an NFT collectible, that's also very different.

所以,当市场上出现了大量新的NFT产品,然后价格暴跌,这不足为奇。然而,对于拥有大量追随者、能力很强的艺术家来说,情况就大不一样了。或者,如果你是一位名人或体育明星,创建一件NFT收藏品,那也是非常不同的。

So the bubble of untalented, no-name artists getting rich quick— that's over now, and that's a good thing for the space. But in terms of the combined market caps of all NFT platforms— I think that number will be much higher in 3 years than now, at least in BTC terms.

因此,让没有才华、默默无闻的艺术家迅速致富的泡沫现已结束了,这对这个领域来说是一件好事。而从NFT平台的总市值而言,我认为3年后这个数字将比现在高得多,至少按比特币计算是这样。

And hopefully Pastel will be the biggest of them all 🙂

希望Pastel能成为市值最大的NFT平台:)

 

感谢anthony来到龙葵社区,希望未来的Pastel更加强大!

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